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Scales and Modes With Joshua Barnhart: Chord Scales, a Breakdown of Scales and Their Functions Part III
Welcome back, lets get started with part 3 Phrygian. Phrygian is considered a tonic scale much like Ionian or Aeolian. Its one of the few scales that carries 3 different cadence patterns (bVII, V, and bII) making it a strong point of resolution. Its characteristic note is the minor second it has. Many composers such as Avishai Cohen, Miles Davis, and Wayne Shorter use it as a jumping point because of its unique pseudo-middle eastern sound and it is easily exchanged for Spanish Phrygian, which is the same scale only with a major third added.
So now lets take a look at some workouts that will get us familial with this scale. This week we’re going to play the scale in intervals. If you think about it, playing any scale from one note up to its octave is a series of seconds, that’s were we get our whole step, half step idea. Well in this work out we’re playing everything in the other intervals. Lets first look at Phrygian in E:
Lets give thirds as our first example. You’re going to play the entire scale only using thirds to reach the next notes. 1, b3, 5, b7, b9, 11, b13, and 1 these are called tertial stacks or stacks of third:

If you have four strings use your open E on this example and try to stay in one place by grabbing the G with your middle finger and slide up to the E at the octave. One thing that’s great about these examples is that you can pick different routs ascending and descending. When you go up to the octave do yourself a favor and try to come down a different way then you came. Then reasscend that same pattern and descend the way you originally ascended. If you’re playing a 5 string or 6 string like me do you best to stay in one place, then try it again with movement.
Once you’re used to doing that give your brain a work out and introduce some other intervals. This is something I never really looked into until I started taking lessons with Janek Gwizdala. I suggest 4ths and 5ths aka quartal and quintal intervals because 6ths and 7ths can get a little ridiculous and ultimately impossible unless you’re sporting 8 octaves. Even 5ths only allow someone with 6 strings to reach up to the 7th unless you have 28 frets and can reach that high E.
Take your time get it right, remember perfect practice makes perfect.
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Melissa Auf Der Maur: Music, Bass, Gear, Hole, New Memoir, and More…
Photo: Self-portrait by Melissa Auf Der Maur
Melissa Auf Der Maur is a Canadian bassist who played with Tinker, Hole, and The Smashing Pumpkins. She released her own work and is a photographer with photos published in Nylon, Bust, and National Geographic. She released her ‘90s Rock Memoir “Even The Good Girls Will Cry” on 17 March 2026.
KB: Did you always want to be a singer-musician growing up?
I’ve played music my whole life. In school, I played trumpet and sang in a children’s choir, so music was always within me. My mother was the first female disc jockey on the Montreal airwaves; her record collection played a huge role in my inspiration and love of music.
KB: When did you start playing bass, and why this instrument?
When I was 19, the early 90s music explosion began to percolate in tiny clubs around the world. I was lucky to be a ticket girl at Montreal’s underground music club. In one year, I saw Hole, Sonic Youth, Smashing Pumpkins, White Zombie, and The Breeders – all had female bass players. That’s when the seed was planted. By the age of 22, I was the bass player of Hole.
KB: Which brands of basses have you used in your career, and which one are you using now?
The first bass that I learned on was a vintage Squier Precision. Hole was sponsored by Fender guitars, so I upgraded to Fender Custom Shop Precisions. That is all I play, but I have a cool vintage 8-string Greco that I use on recordings to thicken up guitar parts.
KB: What equipment do you use or have you used with your basses?
Ampeg SVT amps and cabinets, a couple of Sans-Amp pedals, and that is it.
KB: How did you become a member of Hole, and what is your fondest memory of that time?
Billy Corgan of the Smashing Pumpkins was helping scout a replacement for (RIP) Kristen Pfaff, Hole’s bass player. My band, Tinker, opened for them on the Siamese Dream tour, so Billy had seen me play and could vouch for me. Courtney trusted her talented friend, and that was it. I initially said “no thank you” due to my commitment to my photographic studies and the drama and chaos surrounding the band during the “Live Through This” album release. Courtney took it as a good sign that I said no, so convinced me to reconsider, and soon after, I accepted their invitation, in the name of helping put females in the male-dominated landscape of rock music. My fondest memory is every show we played as a mostly female band, symbolizing what a woman could do in a rock band. Every show had a purpose: get more women to play music.
KB: You are a photographer as well. What makes a great picture? Do you shoot in color or b/w?
I started shooting photographs at age 15. Initially only shot black & white and worked in the art school darkroom. In university, I took a color photography course, and shifted mostly and forever to that, because it was easier to process film on the road when I joined a rock band. I experimented with many cameras, point and shoots, manual, polaroids, medium format, and vintage finds. The trick to a good photograph is to shoot many and all the time – the magic is in the edit and selection process.
KB: Are there artists you would love to collaborate with or wish you had?
??I’ve been lucky to collaborate with some of my favorite musicians in my career. I would still love to collaborate with a new generation heavy electronic artist on an analog bass, heavy electronic drums, and synths collaboration project. Take me out of my usual zone, merging the past and future: my love of 80s dark new wave and new artists exploring that genre. It was very futuristic back then, and we are now, after all, living in the future. I am in the mood to play bass to heavy beats I want to dance to.
KB: What are your 7 favorite bass lines in music across all genres? And why these 7?
“Mountain Song” – Jane’s Addiction (love a rambling, rolling bass line – feels like the ocean waves)
“Black Top – Helmet” (was the first bass line I taught myself)
“Gold Dust Woman” – Hole from “The Crow 2” Soundtrack (it was my first bass line contribution to the band)
“Get Ready” – The Temptations (Motown just feels so good, because of the bass)
“Lucretia My Reflection” – Sisters of Mercy (makes me want to hit the dance floor and play bass simultaneously)
“Be My Druidess” – Type O Negative (full chord bass playing at its best by iconic, demonic, Peter Steele, RIP)
“Romantic Rights” – Death from Above (1979 – unique distorted overdriven tone, combined dance rhythm and melodic intelligence, all in one shot – also! Shout out to a bass & drum only band, which is awesome, and we should have more of, but the bass player needs to be a killer to fill that role.
KB: What are you currently up to?
Releasing my ‘90s Rock Memoir “EVEN THE GOOD GIRLS WILL CRY”. Visceral healing process, it was to get it out of me and write it, but I suspect the real magic will begin by putting it into the world and reflecting with others on what the magic of the ‘90s was all about. Powerful music decade that carried us into what is now a brave new world of digital corporate weirdness – may the past shed a light on our future. That’s my hope for this book release and tour.
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