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Interview with Bassist Pablo González Sarre
Pablo González Sarre…
You may think that playing bass in one of Mexico’s most successful pop-rock bands was enough to be getting on with, but Pablo González Sarre also leads his own jazz ensemble and has an impressive session career – including recently playing on a Grammy-nominated album.
Since Pablo joined pop-rock band Los Claxons in 2005, they have been nominated twice for Latin Grammy awards, and have a developed strong following in their home country as well as across the region and into South America. They are also popular in the Latino community in the USA and have played twice at the SXSW festival.
Tim Fletcher caught up with Pablo in between sessions for Los Claxons’ eighth album.
Opening Photo, Alejandro Seyffert
Hi Pablo – How are things in Mexico?
I think like in almost every place in the world, music industry is unfortunately on hold. But we are using these times to write new music, make this new album and trying to be creative.
Have Los Claxons lost many live shows due to the pandemic?
Yes, we had our full year booked, our last live show being in March. But during this pandemic, we’ve had a couple of livestreams and drive-in shows.
Los Claxons are currently recording their eighth album. Has that been made more difficult by the Covid-19 pandemic?
On a normal album cycle, we have to put touring on hold to get into the studio and make new music, but the lack of live shows was kind of a blessing in disguise because we got the chance to focus on doing just that. Los Claxons – Solo de Pablo (En Vivo)
Has the pandemic been reflected in any of the songwriting for the album?
Yes, there is a song which was influenced by this worldwide situation, but you have to read between the lines to grasp that part of it.
Los Claxons released a live album (El Origen) last year – you have a solo spot on the album. Was that very exciting to play live?
Usually, I’m used to playing bass solos in small jazz bars, so getting the opportunity to play one in a big arena was exciting and challenging, because I had to get creative and played something that would keep a pop audience’s attention.
Were parts of the solo based on ‘Blackbird’ by The Beatles?
Totally, I made an original intro and an outro around an arrangement I made for it.
How has the band developed its sound over the years? Has it become more sophisticated?
When the band started, we were college students. Nowadays, most of the band have become family men, and this, in one way or another, pours into our writing. I wouldn’t call our sound sophisticated; throughout the years, and thanks to experience, we’ve been able to develop a sound true to our songwriting.
How has your own sound developed since you started?
My sound began to change when I began as a session musician about 25 years ago, and that craving for recording different styles of music – Cumbia [Latin American folk music], Hip-Hop, Jazz, etc. and this makes you work harder to look for a versatile sound that can work for different artists, but still have your own signature.
Who would you say were your biggest bass-playing influences when you were starting out?
Alannah Myles’s ‘Black Velvet’ – from her 80’s self-titled album – was the first bass line that blew my mind and got me interested in bass. From there, Cliff Burton was one of my first influences, and I played metal for a couple of years.
Who else have you been influenced by over the years and who are your current favorites?
Obviously, Jaco, Stanley and Marcus. I also look up to upright bass players like Paul Chambers, Jimmy Garrison, Ron Carter, Christian McBride, to name a few. Nowadays, my biggest influences, which would take up the whole interview, but to mention some: Lonnie Plaxico, Mike Pope, Anthony Jackson, and Pino Palladino.
Like Anthony Jackson, you play a very nice six string Fodera bass – can you tell us a little about it?
That bass was custom made for me back in ’04 by my dear family at Fodera. Actually, it was my first six string bass – it has a mahogany body with a maple center block, a peacock maple top, a maple neck with birds-eye maple fingerboard, aero pickups, Mike Pope pre-amp and is a 35” scale. Up until now, it’s my main and most versatile instrument; I really love Fodera.
Did you have a hand in designing it?
Not in its shape, which is the Beez Elite, now known as Imperial II. I had a say in the electronics, on the wood and, as a special request, I asked for a narrower neck.
What other basses do you play?
I play a ’74 P-bass, a ’77 Jazz Bass, a 5 string Fodera Emperor, a Fretless TRB Yamaha with a Mike Pope pre-amp and Aero pickups, and an August Gemunder upright bass. Right now, I’m eagerly waiting for my new signature model by Swan Custom Basses to arrive from Buenos Aires, Argentina.
Do you have a favored amplifier?
I’ve been endorsed by Aguilar for about eight years, and I’ve got nothing but praise for my family at Aguilar Amps.
Apart from working with Los Claxons, you have done quite a few recordings with other artists – what have been the highlights of your session work?
I’ve played on sessions for a range of Mexican artists including Celso Piña, Fer Casillas, Juan Gabriel, and the legendary Boleros singer Armando Manzanero. I’ve also played on sessions for Columbian vocalists Santiago Cruz, Juan Pablo Vega, and Manuel Madrano. I also have to mention Debi Nova’s 2020 album ‘3:33’ which won a Latin Grammy and has been nominated for the 63rd Grammy Awards.
You recorded a solo album a few years ago – did you compose all the tracks yourself?
The album´s called ‘Soliloquio’, and has six tracks, consisting of one by Tammy Scheffer, one by Adrián Cota (the album’s drummer), and the rest are by me. Other than ‘Soliloquio’, which was written for the album, the tracks I contributed are ones I’ve written over the years.
Some of the tracks have a sound reminiscent of Return to Forever. Is that something you were aiming at?
Well, that’s really flattering, but I didn’t have that intention while making the album. The band hadn’t played together, ever, and we got together to record that day for the first time, which resulted in a purer sound.
Have you any plans to do another solo album?
Right now, I’m working on an all-bass album, and writing for a full band one – both of these should be out by the first half of 2021.
There are some great videos on YouTube of you playing with a jazz quartet, and of you doing solo versions of jazz tunes – is jazz your main love?
I think that music is my main love, Jazz is as important in my life as any other type of music.
Have you played many concerts with your quartet?
Due to the pandemic, we haven’t had any gigs, but usually we do play a lot in jazz clubs and music festivals. The last festival we played was Jazz a la Calle in Mercedes, Uruguay.
Do you plan to record any material with the quartet?
Totally, we have to release our next album this year.
What’s next on the agenda for Los Claxons, assuming that at some point live shows will resume?
First, we have to finish our new album, and then go on tour to play it everywhere, reaching further places than we’ve reached before. We want to play more cities in South America and Europe.
Many thanks for the interview!
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Readers have been fans of the composer, bass player, and Bass Musician contributor Alberto Rigoni for some time now.
In this interview, we had the opportunity to hear directly from Alberto about his love of music and a project near and dear to his heart, “Unexpected Lullabies”…
Could you tell our readers what makes your band different from other artists?
In 2005, I felt the urge to write original music. My first track was “Trying to Forget,” an instrumental piece with multiple bass layers (rhythm, solo, and arrangement), similar to the Twin Peaks soundtrack. When I played it for a few people, they really liked it, and I decided to continue composing based on my instinct and ear without adhering to any specific genre. In 2007, I released “Something Different” with Lion Music. The title says it all! Since then, I’ve released many solo albums, each different from the others, ranging from ambient to prog, fusion, jazz, and new age. I am very eclectic!
How did you get involved in this crazy world of music?
As a child, I listened to the music my parents enjoyed: my dad loved classical music, while my mom was into Pink Floyd, Genesis, Duran Duran, etc. These influences left a significant mark on my life. However, the turning point came at 15 when a drummer friend played me “A Change of Seasons” by Dream Theater, which was a shock! From that moment, I decided to play bass and cover Dream Theater songs, which I did for many years with my cover band, Ascra, until it disbanded in 2004. After that, I joined TwinSpirits (prog rock) led by multi-instrumentalist Daniele Liverani. Since then, I haven’t played any more covers!
Who are your musical inspirations, and what inspired the album and the songs?
My roots are in progressive rock metal, with influences from bands like Dream Theater, Symphony X, and many others. However, I listen to all genres and try to keep an open mind, which helps me compose original music. On bass, I was significantly inspired by Michael Manring and Randy Coven (bassist of Ark, Steve Vai, etc.). But I don’t have a real idol; I just follow my own path without compromise.
What are your interests outside of music?
Living in Italy, I love good food and wine! Beyond that, I have a deep interest in art in general and history, not just of my country. I enjoy spending time with friends, skiing, biking, and walking in nature. This is how I spend my free time. The rest of my time is devoted to music and my family!
Tell us about the new album.
It is definitely an out-of-the-box album. When I found out last year that I was going to have a baby girl, I decided to compose a sort of lullaby album, but I didn’t want to cover already famous lullabies. So, I started composing new tunes with the goal of creating an album that was half-sweet and half-hard rock. I did include some covers like “Strangers in the Night” by Frank Sinatra, sung by Goran Edman, former lead singer of Malmsteen. It’s not exactly a lullaby, but I felt the lyrics fit the album, as does the instrumental version of “Fly Me to The Moon.” There are also tracks with just bass and piano (Nenia) or two basses (Vicky). It was definitely an interesting creative process!
What is the difference between the new album and your previous releases, and will there be any new material from your other outfit called BAD AS?
BAD AS is essentially a metal band with several influences including prog. My solo genre is quite different, although there are some metal songs on a few albums. It’s always difficult for me to categorize my music… let’s say it’s a mix of prog, ambient, fusion, and new age.
Where was the album recorded, who produced it, and how long did the process take?
I produced my last album entirely by myself, including mixing and mastering. Unlike other albums I’ve produced within a few months, this one took much longer, perhaps because I was very busy or maybe because I wanted it to be perfect for my daughter, who is now three months old. In any case, I am satisfied. Once again, I did something different from my previous albums.
What is the highlight of the album for you and why?
My favorite song is the first track titled “Vittoria,” named after my daughter. It’s the intro to the record and isn’t very long, but the melody stuck in my head. Another standout track is the instrumental version of “Fly Me to The Moon” by Frank Sinatra, where I used fretless bass. The first part is sweet, the second part definitely rocks!
How are the live shows going, and what are you and the band hoping to achieve?
With BAD AS, this year we shared the stage with David Ellefson’s (former Megadeth bassist) band and talented young singer Dino Jelusik (White Snake). We plan to continue performing all over Europe!
What’s in store for the future?
I am working on an instrumental project called Nemesis Call, a progressive shred prog metal album with various influences. It will feature guest appearances from famous musicians like drummers Mike Terrana and Thomas Lang, as well as young talents like Japanese guitarist Keiji from Zero (19), 14-year-old Indian drummer Sajan Young, and guitarists Alexandra Zerner and Alexandra Lioness, Hellena Pandora. It’s scheduled for release at the end of the year or early 2025. As an independent artist, I have launched a fundraising campaign with exclusive pledges at www.albertorigoni.net/nemesiscall. And no, I am not begging; the album will be released anyway!
What formats is the release available in?
Unexpected Lullabies is available both as a Digipack CD and on streaming platforms.
What is the official album release date?
June 4th, 2024.
Thanks for this interview Bass Musician Magazine and for the continued support to my career!
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CD Track Listing:
1. Vittoria
2. Fly Me to the Moon
3. Azzurra
4. Dancing with Tears in My Eyes (feat. John Jeff Touch)
5. Out of Fear
6. Veni Laeatitia (feat. Alexandra Zerner)
7. Nenia
8. Slap Lullaby (feat. Karl Clews)
9. Saga
10. Vicky (feat. Michael Manring)
11. Ocean Travelers (feat. Vitalij Kuprij)
12. Strangers in the Night (feat. Göran Edman)
13. Peaceful
14. Un uomo che voga (feat. Eleonora Damiano)
Band Line-Up:
- Tommaso Ermolli arrangements on “Vittoria”
- Sefi Carmel on “Fly Me to the Moon” (Cover) (except for the keyboard solo by Alessandro Bertoni)
- Piano and keyboards by Alessandro Bertoni on “Azzurra”
- Leonardo Caverzan, guitars, and John Jeff Touch, vocals on “Dancing with Tears in my Eyes” (Cover)
- T. Ermolli keys on “Out of Fear”
- Alexandra Zerner everything on “Veni Laetitia”
- Daniele Bof piano on “Nenia”
- Karl Clews, piccolo bass on “Slap Lullaby”
- Jonas Erixon vocals and guitars on “Saga”
- Michael Manring bass on “Vicky”
- Vitalij Kuprij, keyboards and piano, and Josh Sapna, guitars, on “Ocean Traveler”
- Göran Edman, vocals, Emiliano Tessitore, guitars, Emiliano Bonini, drums, on “Strangers in the Night” (Cover) everything by Alberto Rigoni and vocals by Federica “Faith”
- Sciamanna on “Peaceful”
- T. Ermolli, guitars, and Eleonora Damiano, vocals, on “Un uomo che voga All drums programmed by Alberto Rigoni
If you are an electric bass player, this is an exciting time to be alive as this relatively new instrument evolves around us. Some creative individuals have taken an active role in this evolution and made giant leaps in their own direction. Lee Barker is one of these inventive people having created the Barker Bass.
Fortunately, Lee is also an excellent writer (among so many talents) and has recently released his book “Plausible Gumption, The Road Between a Christmas Toolbox and The Barker Bass”. This book is a very fun read for everyone and shares a ton of details about Lee’s life in general, his experiences as a musician, a radio host, and a luthier. Now I am fortunate to have the great opportunity to gain even more insights into this renaissance man with this video interview.
Plausible Gumption, The Road Between a Christmas Toolbox and The Barker Bass is available online at Amazon.com
Interview and photo courtesy of Holly Bergantino of Bergantino Audio Systems
With an expansive live show and touring, Mt. Joy bassist Michael Byrnes shares his experiences with the joyful, high-energy band!
Michael Byrnes has kept quite a busy touring schedule for the past few years with his band, Mt. Joy. With a philosophy of trial and error, he’s developed quite the routines for touring, learning musical instruments, and finding the right sound. While on the road, we were fortunate to have him share his thoughts on his music, history, and path as a musician/composer.
Let’s start from the very beginning, like all good stories. What first drew
you to music as well as the bass?
My parents required my sister and I to play an instrument. I started on piano and really didn’t like it so when I wanted to quit my parents made me switch to another instrument and I chose drums. Then as I got older and started forming bands there were never any bass players. When I turned 17 I bought a bass and started getting lessons. I think with drums I loved music and I loved the idea of playing music but when I started playing bass I really got lost in it. I was completely hooked.
Can you tell us where you learned about music, singing, and composing?
A bit from teachers and school but honestly I learned the most from just going out and trying it. I still feel like most of the time I don’t know what I am doing but I do know that if I try things I will learn.
What other instruments do you play?
A bit of drums but that’s it. For composing I play a lot of things but I fake it till I make and what I can’t fake I will ask a friend!
I know you are also a composer for film and video. Can you share more
about this with us?
Pretty new to it at the moment. It is weirdly similar to the role of a bass player in the band. You are using music to emphasize and lift up the storyline. Which I feel I do with the bass in a band setting. Kind of putting my efforts into lifting the song and the other musicians on it.
Everybody loves talking about gear. How do you achieve your “fat” sound?
I just tinker till it’s fat lol. Right now solid-state amps have been helping me get there a little quicker than tube amps. That’s why I have been using the Bergantino Forté HP2 – Otherwise I have to say the cliche because it is true…. It’s in the hands.
Describe your playing style(s), tone, strengths and/or areas that you’d like
to explore on the bass.
I like to think of myself as a pretty catchy bass player. I need to ask my bandmates to confirm! But I think when improvising and writing bass parts I always am trying to sneak little earworms into the music. I want to explore 5-string more!
Who are your influences?
I can’t not mention James Jamerson. Where would any of us be if it wasn’t for him? A lesser-known bassist who had a huge effect on me is Ben Kenney. He is the second bassist in the band Incubus and his playing on the Crow Left the Murder album completely opened me up to the type of bass playing I aspire towards. When I first started playing I was really just listening to a lot of virtuosic bassists. I was loving that but I couldn’t see myself realistically playing like that. It wasn’t from a place of self-doubt I just deep down knew that wasn’t me. Ben has no problem shredding but I was struck by how much he would influence the song through smaller movements and reharmonizing underneath the band. His playing isn’t really in your face but from within the music, he could move mountains. That’s how I want to play.
What was the first bass you had? Do you still have it?
A MIM Fender Jazz and I do still have it. It’s in my studio as we speak. I rarely use it these days but I would never get rid of it.
(Every bass player’s favorite part of an interview and a read!) Tell us about
your favorite bass or basses. 🙂
I guess I would need to say that MIM Jazz bass even though I don’t play it much. I feel connected to that one. Otherwise, I have been playing lots of great amazing basses through the years. I have a Serek that I always have with me on the road (shout out Jake). Also have a 70’s Mustang that 8 times out of 10 times is what I use on recordings. Otherwise, I am always switching it up. I find that after a while the road I just cycle basses in and out. Even if I cycle out a P bass for another P bass.
What led you to Bergantino Audio Systems?
My friend and former roommate Edison is a monster bassist and he would gig with a cab of yours all the time years ago. Then when I was shopping for a solid state amp the Bergantino Forté HP2 kept popping up. Then I saw Justin Meldal Johnsen using it on tour with St. Vincent and I thought alright I’ll give it a try!
Can you share a little bit with us about your experience with the Bergantino
forte HP amplifier? I know you had this out on tour in 2023 and I am pretty
certain the forte HP has been to more countries than I have.
It has been great! I had been touring with a 70’s SVT which was great but from room to room, it was a little inconsistent. I really was picky with the type of power that we had on stage. After a while, I thought maybe it is time to just retire this to the studio. So I got that Forte because I had heard that it isn’t too far of a leap from a tube amp tone-wise. Plus I knew our crew would be much happier loading a small solid state amp over against the 60 lbs of SVT. It has sounded great and has really remained pretty much the same from night to night. Sometimes I catch myself hitting the bright switch depending on the room and occasionally I will use the drive on it.
You have recently added the new Berg NXT410-C speaker cabinet to your
arsenal. Thoughts so far?
It has sounded great in the studio. I haven’t gotten a chance to take it on the road with us but I am excited to put it through the paces!
You have been touring like a madman all over the world for the past few
years. Any touring advice for other musicians/bass players? And can I go to Dublin, Ireland with you all??
Exercise! That’s probably the number one thing I can say. Exercise is what keeps me sane on the road and helps me regulate the ups and downs of it. Please come to Dublin! I can put you on the guest list!
It’s a cool story on how the Mt. Joy band has grown so quickly! Tell us
more about Mt. Joy, how it started, where the name comes from, who the
members are and a little bit about this great group?
Our singer and guitarist knew each other in high school and have made music together off and on since. Once they both found themselves living in LA they decided to record a couple songs and put out a Craigslist ad looking for a bassist. At the time I had just moved to LA and was looking for anyone to play with. We linked up and we recorded what would become the first Mt. Joy songs in my house with my friend Caleb producing. Caleb has since produced our third album and is working on our fourth with us now. Once those songs came out we needed to form a full band to be able to do live shows. I knew our drummer from gigging around LA and a mutual friend of all of us recommended Jackie. From then on we’ve been on the road and in the studio. Even through Covid.
Describe the music style of Mt. Joy for me.
Folk Rock with Jam influences
What are your favorite songs to perform?
Always changing but right now it is ‘Let Loose’
What else do you love to do besides bass?
Exercise!
I always throw in a question about food. What is your favorite food?
I love a good chocolate croissant.
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I am sure many of you are very familiar with Mark Egan as we have been following him and his music for many years now. The last time we chatted was in 2020.
Mark teamed up with drummer Shawn Pelton and guitarist Shane Theriot to produce a new album, “Cross Currents” released on March 8th, 2024. I have been listening to this album in its entirety and it is simply superb (See my review).
Now, I am excited to hear about this project from Mark himself and share this conversation with our bass community in Bass Musician Magazine.
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Bassist Adam Sullivan…
Hailing from Minnesota since 2012, By the Thousands has produced some serious Technical Metal/Deathcore music. Following their recent EP “The Decent”s release, I have the great opportunity to chat with bassist Adam Sullivan.
Join me as we hear about Adam’s musical Journey, his Influences, how he gets his sound, and the band’s plans for the future
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